Cyanide

Bob De Fries – Vocals, Dave Stewart – Guitar, Jock then Dave Thompson – Bass, & Mick Stewart then Steve Roberts – Drums

My original entry for Cyanide from way back in 2000 read “Great name. Not so great band. Check out I’m a Boy / Do It (1978 Pye) and Mac The Flash / Hate The State (1978 Pye) if you must.”

Many years have elapsed since my above risible summary of the band. The fact of the matter is there was so much more to them (and the whole York punk scene) and some pretty good tunes. They are also missed out of books like George Gimarc’s excellent Punk trainspotter compendium Punk Diary.

Like most punk bands they didn’t start off that way and had some typical influences in liking Dr Feelgood and the Heavy Metal Kids. In 1976 they could be found playing AC/DC (I’m convinced they got their names from Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap which they used to cover), ZZ Top & UFO covers alongside their own songs. Bob was originally on bass and vocals but found he was restricted in his singing so became the singer and frontman.

But upon hearing the Sex Pistols’ Anarchy In The UK, they saw the light and embraced punk full on with a band that they could identify with. Cyanide was the first York punk band to play and were an incredibly popular draw on the emerging York punk scene with a high energy and colorful punk look in their own graffitied and decollage home made punk clothes. Nev Astley was there at the time and managed to capture the vibrant punk scene in York and his pictures of the punks and bands who played there are the best and most evocative we’ve seen since Derek Ridgers Roxy Club/Punk photos.

PUNK YORK 1977 – Photos Nev Astley

It also meant they got some great supports to bands like Wayne County & The Electric Chairs, The Jam (Weller insulted some girls and Bob De Vries held him up by the neck until he apologised), UK Subs, Chelsea and many more at the York Assembly Halls, Cats Whiskers, Grobs (Grob & Duckett) and the seedy dark Munster Bar Cellar which hosted strippers mid week.

Bob de Vries (bit of a Jack Black lookalike) was, in particular, a fantastic frontman and his performances featured his infamous stuffed ferret that he would bring out during Mac The Flash where he wore a cloth cap and flasher Mac which when opened revealed porn pages stuck inside his coat and er well an erect ferret which apparently was real and stuffed by a taxidermist friend of the band. As the picture shows it was guaranteed to get a reaction because it was fucking horrific! Euston Arch (Hugh Bernays) was their first manager who got them gigs and arranged the recording of 2 tracks Mac The Flash and No Progress at the local Pollen Studios who were going to release them as a single. The deal with Pye scuppered both the single and his management role. He also became involved with York’s second most famous punk band The Jermz, but that’s another story!

Bob & his ferret friend – Photo credit – Nev Astley

Euston Arch (Hugh Bernays) We used to say that Elvis Presley was America’s Bob de Vries, and certainly Bob was a vocational performer with an unlimited commitment to holding your attention but there was also Jock Marston on bass – the extraordinary foil to Bob’s domineering stage presence with his own answering vocabulary of vicious stop-frame moves and terrifying facial expressions all relayed by the unstoppable punch of their beat. Joy Division Central

The incredible looking Jock and Bob one of the crowd at Grobs – Photo Credits Nev Astley

Any punk band worth its salt would make its way to The Roxy Club and Cyanide were no different appearing with those loveable soon to become funsters Skrewdriver. With this higher profile, they secured a major deal with Pye who actually came up to York to sign them. However, they also lost Jock on bass who was a key member and didn’t want to leave York. He formed the incredibly influential Sema 4 who true to his word only gigged and recorded around York.

To be clear though Pye were not a major label. Like Decca… they WERE back when you used to light gaslight on the street. Now well to of touch with music, signing Cyanide was them dipping into punk waters. They had also signed Dead Fingers Talk and er The Fabulous Poodles. Dead Fingers Talk got Mick Ronson as producer for their album and then Steve Lillywhite. The fabulous Poodles got John Entwhistle from The Who. Cyanide got Ron O’Shea. Ron had produced a number of records for The Carvells who were a Beach Boy sounding whose set list of songs were all about skateboarding!

Dead Fingers Talk sign with the young go getter finger on the pulse Pye head honcho

On the day of recording they met Des O’Connor recording his new album, Jim Henson mixing his latest muppet album and their photographer had just done a Brotherhood of Man photo shoot.

In short Pye didn’t know what to do with them but the band did get an album out which not many punk bands were able to though a minus was the production was so weak.

Fabulous mini-documentary on the band. I’m not sure I’ve seen a better one

Pye didn’t take up the option for another album. RCA liked the band but wasn’t interested in Bob. There were some lineup changes and they signed to Pinnacle for one more single that did nothing before they lost drummer Steve Roberts to the UK Subs and called it a day.

There’s plenty of heartache there. Jock died in a horrific car crash aged 30 with his wife and baby daughter, Bob died in 2005. Steve Roberts died October 8th, 2022 by suicide, aged 68.



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Do It (Original Pollen Demo 1977)

Video – Dick Sefton


I’m A Boy / Do It (Pye Records 1978)

Kicking off with a Who cover, it’s a shame the boys didn’t get John Entwhistle producing but it was their labelmates The Fabulous Poodles who got him. The choice of cover for the first single didn’t do them any favours with the critics appearing in those new times a retrograde step.

It’s a fair romp through The Who classic at predictable souped-up speed, but the pick is the perfectly punky formed Do It which sounds suspiciously like a Ramones song that I can’t quite place… oh yes Loudmouth.. and arguably it should have been the A side.


Mac The Flash / Hate The State (Pye Records 1978)

X marks the spot on the picture cover where the taxidermist stuffed phallic ferret lived when the boys performed the song live. Showing the band’s humour and a fine pair of punky spunky tunes the onstage appendage saw them banned by Mecca venues. Nice logo design as well!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpUTKeJtfQs

Your Old Man / Fireball (Pinnacle Records 1979)

It’s 1979 and while for bands like the UK Subs, it’s a resurgence of punk for others like Cyanide and this single they sound somewhat dated. It’s not a bad single but plaudits go to the B side again which is a fantastic piece of punk riffola and shows some imagination and flair. But by then it was too late.

Cyanide (Pye Records 1978)

What you get is 12 tracks and 1/3 of them were available on the 2 singles. It’s not a classic album in any sense of the word and in my humble opinion they lucked out when Pye signed them up to an album because I don’t think they were ready.

But into the studios they went in December 1977. One of the band recounts in the studio that the producer or engineer told Bob De Vries to shut up and Bob kicked the sound booth door open and gave them a verbal lashing. The band were clearly unhappy with the production in an expensive studio which cost £50 an hour – a lot of money back then. I recall Dead Fingers Talk also being unhappy with their sound at Pye Studios.

The producer, Ron O’Shae, didn’t exactly have any great credits to his name to inspire confidence. In fact his main production credits were on a Beach Boys sounding band called The Carvells whose every song had ‘Skateboarding’ in the title

The album crucially didn’t come out though for some 6 months after recording which, as we’ve said repeatedly on this site, was a long time in punk and many more bands were coming through with releases. Pye weren’t big players. They did a couple of half page ads to promote the album but it got no reviews.

The band felt it didn’t capture their live sound and I think that is the general opinion of band and fans alike. A live review by De Moines in Sounds 29.7.78 probably summarises the sound of the album neatly. What it lacked was any songs with a change of pace to be honest.

…a mixture of well structured straight punk tunes and occasional excursions into R&B (mostly effected by Dave Stewarts unpretentious strumming) De Vries and a rythym section featuring Dave Thompson’s toiling bass and Mick Stewarts totally empathetic drumming…. a fair amount of skill and abundant humour.


Backstage Pass

This was a pretty popular compilation though no rhyme or reason over the bands featured or the name of the compilation. It did include an unreleased Cyanide track Mess I’m In which sounds very mod like and also a solo Bob De Vries one I’m Me which sounds like classic 1977 punk.



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